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Post by Courtney on Nov 9, 2008 18:12:53 GMT -5
As of Novemeber 9th 2008, Courtney is entering the Presidental Election of ( Imaginary Country) as a Republicrat . Any Candidates for Democrats and Republican
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Post by Cody on Nov 9, 2008 18:15:25 GMT -5
hi
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Post by Bridget on Nov 9, 2008 21:16:27 GMT -5
Funny!
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Post by Cody on Nov 9, 2008 23:13:03 GMT -5
BRIDGET <3
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Post by Tim on Nov 9, 2008 23:19:09 GMT -5
Court... just give Obama a Chance ok...
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Post by Courtney on Nov 9, 2008 23:21:57 GMT -5
I can see the Statue of Liberty from My House. What Obama can see?
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Post by stickmanandrw on Nov 9, 2008 23:23:39 GMT -5
Well, as of right about now, I will be running as a member of the Stickman Rulez Party. Running mates, anyone?
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Post by Courtney on Nov 9, 2008 23:26:29 GMT -5
You will lose against the Republicrats
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Post by Courtney on Nov 9, 2008 23:27:23 GMT -5
I support Abortion and Gay Rights
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Post by stickmanandrw on Nov 10, 2008 0:15:20 GMT -5
I support neither. With exception of course...
Abortion: If the woman's life is in danger only! If you are just being stupid and get pregnant at age 15, then it's your own damn fault. Besides, what's wrong with adoption? Even in a gray area situation regarding rape, I still feel you shouldn't abort. I believe there is a reason for everything, and perhaps through some horrible crime, the next president or the person who cures cancer will be a "rape child", if you will. Controversial opinion? Of course, but isn't everything these days? That leads me to this...
Gay Rights: This is a tough, tough one for me. According to our laws, (in that there is a separation in church and state), Gay Marriage should be legal, and also they should receive the same rights as everyone else. On the other hand, even if you take religion out of the equation, science bares me out. Can anyone here name me JUST ONE straight couple who wanted until after they were married to have intercourse, and yet STILL somehow contracted an STD? I can't. Yet how many gay couples, (and straight couple who don't wait) get STDs? Quite a few. How do you explain that? I still don't have a clear answer myself. Some gene in our DNA that is very specific as to who we have sex with? Freak luck? Prove God exists? I really can't answer how that works just yet.
So if we are assuming the Constitution isn't changing, I would allow for Gay marriage if I was President and force the states to recognize the marriage, even though I don't support homosexuality myself.
Here's a few more issues to bring up...
Gun Rights: I think it's our right to bare arms. Just not AK47's or Grenades or God knows what else. A pistol is plenty enough to ice someone.
Capital Punishment: Support it, but only for multiple murder/rape offenders and/or in extreme situations where the person is a clear menace to society and is obviously never gonna change. And only in situations where it's blantenly obvious that they did it, I'm not risking killing an innocent here.
Drinking Age Limit: I say no limit, only because it's way too damn hard to enforce it as it is. I say increase education on the conquesences of drinking, (esspecially at a younger age, when you can really scare the kids and convince them to be responsible about this rather than wait till they are teens and they don't care).
Weed: Only medical and only government hired officials can grow it and only under constant watch.
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Post by Courtney on Nov 10, 2008 0:35:15 GMT -5
Gun Rights: I do Support Gun Rights, as I believe in our Bill of Rights but I do not believe is using a Gun for non-sense like Shooting a trespasser 38 Times. As I would enforce numerous of laws to regulate the use of Guns.
Capital Punishment: I do not Support since this is an act of murder. I do not believe our State should use brutality as a verdict to whom done us wrong. I think there is other ways to rehabilitate someone and I would say make them imprisonment for life is the Key.
Drinking Age Limit: I would lower the age limit to age 18 and I would say this only because of I was a victim to Alcohol. However, I firmly believe that kids need to Drink responsibly. It does not make sense, driving while the influence and you will be punish severly.
Weed: Only medical and only government hired officials can grow it and only under constant watch, just like you Andrew.
Abortion: I believe as a woman, that if you can't take care of a baby and do not want the pain, then released it from it's misery, but I will give you a limit of Five times, if you do anymore you will be Tax.
Gay Rights: I don't understand what wrong with liking of the same sex. I understand the morality, but they are people too. I would not want this country to discriminate against them and I would allow Gays, Lesbians and Transgender to do everything.
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Post by brian on Nov 10, 2008 0:42:09 GMT -5
wow this thread has so many statements that make me want to fucking shout
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Post by stickmanandrw on Nov 10, 2008 0:53:57 GMT -5
You know what's really great about this fake election? We disagree on a lot of things, and yet we didnt' resort to insulting each other and mudslinging each other or getting pissy over any of this. Thus, we've just proven to be more mature than 50-70 year old politicians! Gotta love it! By the way, you made some very good points on a couple of issues in particular, (Gay Rights and Capitol Punishment in particular)
I'll throw in a couple of other topics, and then I'll probably call it a night.
Taxes: I definitely am more in favor of more taxes on the richer folks and lesser on the increasingly poorer middle class. While I realize that many of the richest folks get taxed more heavily from a percentage stand-point, (as in, for each 100 bucks they make, they lose something like 15 bucks compared to a middle class person who loses 7 or so percent) and that may seem unfair, but hey, they are richer, you should therefore make a bigger sacrifice to the country when we need it.
Patriot Act: I hate it. While I understand the national secruity issues, monitoring people is taking away our liberties and under NO circumstances, would I ever allow our liberties to be jepordized, even if it was for safety. The Patriot Act is the kind of key that makes our Democracy into an Totalitarian government.
Iraq: We should have left 5 years ago, (better yet, never should have went). I do worry about the consequences of abandening a destroyed country, (we did that to Afghanistan in the 70's when they fought with the U.S.S.R. and they- namely a young Osama Bin Laden- held a grudge against us ever since). But we've had enough time to fix the country, just train the locals to defend themselves and let them run decide how to run the country, not force them into a democracy that they are not ready for.
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Post by lorii on Nov 10, 2008 9:41:13 GMT -5
As of now- my votes leaning towards Stickman . haa
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Post by jermaine on Nov 10, 2008 12:34:55 GMT -5
too many words in one posttttt
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Post by Bridget on Nov 10, 2008 17:06:33 GMT -5
CODY <333
Abortion-mehh Gay rights-yes Capital punishment--NO. Everything else--idgas
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Post by Jeffrey on Nov 10, 2008 17:49:54 GMT -5
abortion yes. gay rights yes. capital punishment no. guns no. take us out of iraq. marijuana for medicine.
*Takes a gander*
Oh shit, I think I support Courtney.
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Post by thehooker on Nov 10, 2008 18:30:51 GMT -5
Oh shit!! Hooker is probably about to piss some people off!! Start with gay rights: Why should gay people not have every right that straight people have?? the 2nd word of both of those is "PEOPLE"... No reason at all for everyone's rights not to be the same. The only argument that I can think of is religious bullshit! (Hmmm- wait everything religious is bullshit, so why should I be surprised that it brings a messd up view of human rights?) Abortion: NOOO. The ONLY excuse for abortion is if the woman is going to DIE. Any other reason constitutes murder, and that is simply that! Gun control: Guns are stupid! but I live in Canada and trust me (we have laws all about this) - useless laws do nothing at all to stop guns. Capitol punishment: LOL - If I was a dictator and could do whatever I want??? one of the 1st things would be to walk into every max security prison put a gun to the inmates heads and BANG! Useless to society and I don't even wanna hear any "rehabilitation" crap, Criminals detract from a productive society, cost taxpayers TONS of $$ and basically don't deserve any mercy at all. Iraq - Nuke 'em!!! (lol - I just kidding about that one... I do support the war on terror, but NOT the continued presence in the middle East for political reasons) Weed - Hang on I will put my views on this when I finish this joint!
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Post by mike on Nov 10, 2008 18:31:30 GMT -5
Ok, this is my first time being serious on this board YAY XD.
*Warning, this is comming from a Massachusetts resident, most left winged state out of the whole U.S. where Gay Marriage is legal, Marijuana is decriminalized, and disagrees with Texas 99% of the time*
Gay Marriage: For me being a straight guy with many gay friends, I support Gay Marriage to the fullest extent. What my moral tells me is that no matter who you are, you should be able to be with who ever you want without the government who you can and cannot be with. I feel that gay people should have the same equal rights as straight people and should not be discriminated from their rights because of their differences. How I see it, before the 1970s, interracial marriages were illegal in most states, and in some, inter religion marrigaes (as in a Chirstian marries a Jewish person), so I see it just like that. And in terms of debating gay marriage with non supporters, I see it like this. If people don't support gay marriage because of religious reasons, then you cannot fight religion, no matter how hard you try (and I tried MANY times) because of the mere fact that I'm not saying they are close minded, but more of religion=morals and it tends to make them believe a specific way, to not support gay marriage. If however one did not support gay marriage but supported civil unions (as in having all the rights of married couples, just not religious affiliated), then I would be satisfied. This is cause they support equal rights in politics and believe that religion should be separate from state, just not what religion tells them. So in other words, I would be satisfied if one supports the political marriage of Civil Unions if they did not support gay marriage. But at the same time, I very freaking glad that my state was the first to have gay marriage, and had it for 4 years as of now, and no one talks about it, it seems very normal in mass.
Abortion: This a very VERY tough subject. But i tend to full support it more than be against it. I completely support it in the cases of underage, rape, incest, and first times getting pregnant. The only time I disprove it is when they take advantage of the system (as in getting pregnant at least 3 times and getting abortions for all) and in cases of abortion after the 4-5 month development period. I mean with the availability of contraceptives in the pharmacies and what not, I feel that every female above the age of 14 should be on the pill, not only cause of preventing pregnancy, but cause of how it regulates their "systems", and I'm not the only one who feels this way, most of my female friends feels the same way as well. And the whole argument of "once the sperm hits the egg its life", i can use that same exact argument and say that everytime a guy or girl masturbates and release their sperm and vaginal secretions, that they are wasting life as well..........constantly. I see it as life after the 4-5 month period of development. That is when I think abortions are wrong, but there are not that many cases of it at all, and if there were, it would be because the mother is at a life risk. And finally, I support abortions cause of one big thing, stem cell research. Even if the ones aborted did not have a function in life, they will have a function for life its self. Stem cell research is what is needed to find the cure for many diseases, cancers, and possibly aids. Now if someone said that if they knew that it would find the cure for these things and still be against stem cell research because it comes from abortions, then that person deserves to live in a 3rd world country, thats just my opinion:
Marijuana: Very very interesting subject. I feel that Marijuana should be treated the same way as Alcohol. I mean really think about it, HARD. How many car accidents, robberies, and murders were related to alcoholism and how many were related to pot. If anything, Alcohol is ALOT worse than Marijuana, yes its easily accessable. Massachusetts just passed a proposition where Marijuana is decriminalized (not legalized). Heres how it goes, if you are caught with less than one ounce of Marijuana in the state of Massachusetts, instead of being arrested and being charged with a criminal misdemeanor, the Marijuana is confiscated, given a 100$ fine, forced to go to 10 hours worth of drug counseling, and if they are underage, their parents are notified. Yes, there is still a punishment for carrying Marijuana and is ALOT better than going to prison, or being rejected from financial aid and jobs because of the small drug offense. This law is going to largely decrease the crime rate of Massachusetts and our prisons will be filled with people who DESERVE to be there. This is thee perfect system for Marijuana and I hope all states would support this someday.
Capital Punishment: Against, I see that as an Inmate's easy way out, and it seems like more inmates would prefer to have the death penalty than to be in prison for the rest of their lives. Life in prison is the true form of punishment in the criminal justice system. Our state does not have capital punishment so its not that big of a deal.
Ill post more another time =3
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Post by mike on Nov 10, 2008 18:34:33 GMT -5
Oh, and in terms of the "Republicrat Party", you wanna know who else is a Republicrat??? JOSEPH FUCKING LIEBERMAN!!!!!! I will refuse to let that happen.
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Post by juice on Nov 10, 2008 18:54:50 GMT -5
Im not one to get into a big debate about these subjects. I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinions and they should be respected as such.
However, I do have one question and Im asking this in all seriousness and no offense intended.
Courtney, did your mother smoke crack when she was pregnant with you?
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Post by Bridget on Nov 10, 2008 19:10:24 GMT -5
Mike, please don't ever say "vaginal secretions" and expect me not to laugh.
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Post by jermaine on Nov 10, 2008 19:12:00 GMT -5
oh juice you crack me up As for as gay rights go, thats basically a no brainer. No matter how different you are, everyone should be entitled to the same rights. Homosexuals are minorities in themselves and if minorities have equal rights, then so should gays Abortion, i am 200% for no matter what. If a woman wants to fuck her body up by getting an abortion every time she has an "oh-oh" then by all means go for it. This ain't the 1800's and a woman should have FULL control over what she can do with her body no matter what any man in power says. Gun Control, oh god. I live in Texas and my house is FULL of guns. If someone pissed me off, i could easily grab one and have a ball. Now see, im a sane person and i have that ability, then imagine what a person with no common sense would do? I am completely for gun control like woah. Capital Punishment, i used to support capital punishment but these days i don't think we as human beings have a right to decide who should live and who should die. I am greatly irritated however with how bad of a shape our prison systems are. I think its a VERY necessary tax for us to pay to have other people maintain and control those who are a threat to society.
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Post by noah on Nov 10, 2008 19:22:31 GMT -5
Well living in florida, on our ballot was amendment 2. legal marrige between 1 man and 1 woman, Well it passed with a 62%. in florida you have to have 60% for a law to pass. so if i am laying on my death bed my boyfriend cant come see me and we cant share insurance, car,house, nothing it drives me up the fucking wall that i am a tax payer and i cant even marry? Well this is how i look at it. If i cant marry someone i love then, People can only marry there race, forced to have an abortion unless they are married, cant marry for legal residancy. you must get your fucking green card some other way. I know i sound like an idiot but everyone is talking about it. everything is based on religion, well most people think, well im a fucking jew, it says nothing about gay marriage being wrong. And The fucking bible is not the fucking holy word from god. that shit has been rewritten so many times, people who rewrite them put there own shit in there. i PROMISE. it was never a problem, until a few years ago, and i dont understand how if your famous then its ok to do it. i think i hate this fucking state, im moving back to greece.
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Post by noah on Nov 10, 2008 19:24:53 GMT -5
and im sure if they made killing mexicans legal, everyone would go to texas and stand at the fence and have a fucking free for all. and then go to maimi and run over them with there boats like they do fucking manatees
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